On 11/27/24, 7:32 PM, I wrote: >I don't understand why you think it is important that everyone in the IETF cares about its organization. > As a datapoint that argues against that proposition, note that with one exception barely 1/4 of the population volunteers for NomCom And as another datapoint, ALLDISPATCH at 121, which had nothing scheduled against it, had 300 attendees (again about 1/4 of the population), and 2026 and 2418 were announced on the agenda weeks ahead of time.