People's responses to the plenary session -- which they also perceive as a waste of time -- suggest that your view isn't widely shared. Perhaps it would be more fruitful to address the underlying problem -- that we have to pursue our work in parallel, because the organisation is significantly overcommitted. You feel that the GENAREA work is important enough to guarantee it doesn't have conflicts, but others are likely to feel differently -- both in the importance of the GENAREA work and in the importance of their own interests. Cheers, > On 28 Nov 2024, at 6:19 AM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 28-Nov-24 04:37, Michael Richardson wrote: >> Rob Wilton \(rwilton\) <rwilton=40cisco.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > One proviso is that the charter for GENAREA needs to be very clear >> > about what small things it can take on, and what things really need >> > wider community consensus first. And I don’t really mean on the size >> > of the work, but the potential impact of the work on the community or >> > the standards process. >> It seems you are just re-creating GENDISPATCH with a new name. >> If you want to take on "small" things, then just say something like: >> "GENDISPATCH can also do small efforts, as determined by the IESG" >> we don't need to anticipate everything, or litigate everything twice in >> charter than then again. >> ==== >> I prefer to keep GENDISPATCH with the other dispatch work. >> I think it's MORE IMPORTANT than the other dispatch work that it be >> conflict-free. > > Yes. One of the frustrations about working on IETF process issues is > that most of the people affected by them don't help fix them. We need > many more participants to take an interest in process work, and a specific > advantage of having GENDISPATCH as part of a plenary dispatch session is > that more people will be in the room. It is *not* a waste of their time. > > Brian > -- > Alldispatch mailing list -- alldispatch@xxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to alldispatch-leave@xxxxxxxx -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/