That's really cool, and would have been useful to lead with. I've never heard of any of this. Your comments now make more sense. I was not intending to be snarky—you referred to an old printer, and I have never heard of anybody's printer doing this (I have my own printers and scanners, and they do not, for example), so I assumed this was some old idea that's no longer in use. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
That said, a scanner that emails your scanned images in plaintext without using TLS is a serious security problem and should definitely be prevented from continuing to do that. It's a benefit to the end user to prevent this, not a loss of function. I would say that this is a strong argument in favor of requiring STARTTLS, not an argument against it.
On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 5:36 PM John R Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024, Ted Lemon wrote:
> John, with all due respect (which is a lot!), there is exactly one printer
> on the internet that sends mail via SMTP, and Other John owns it. ...
Uh, what? As I said, my printer sends status reports like "I'm jammed"
by SMTP.
In fact printers do all sorts of stuff by e-mail. I have a new Canon
scanner/printer where I can push a few buttons an it will scan a stack of
papers and e-mail me the PDF, or it can be a fax machine and forward
incoming faxes as e-mail. It only cost $200, it's not big or fancy. The
old printer even had a way to pick up messages by POP and print them. The
new printer does STARTTLS but there are plenty of old ones that still
print fine but don't.
I do not understand the point of snarky, misleading comments like this,
but I wish they would stop.
R's,
John
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