Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 30-Aug-24 09:33, Michael Richardson wrote: >> Rob Wilton \(rwilton\) <rwilton=40cisco.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > 3. Split/migrate the existing IETF process into what must be in the >> > RFCs/BCP and what moves to webpages (hopefully also incorporating >> > appropriate IESG statements). If we want to change core parts of the >> > IETF process, i.e., the parts that are documented in BCPs, then this >> > may be a time to consider this, but this could also be deferred, to >> > reduce risk). Moving text to webpages may be quite a lot of work, mcr> What kind of risks are you thinking here? mcr> I think that the biggest risk is a 1000 message long debate over minutia mcr> which pisses off half the community, and we lose the energy to finish :-) bc> There's another risk, which is why I keep banging on about bc> https://www.ietf.org/process/informal/: sheer complexity. Cleaning up bc> RFC 2026 and RFC 2418 will be no means solve the problem. We have bc> multiple process BCPs, multiple related Informational RFCs, multiple bc> IESG statements, and multiple bits of folklore. Wow. That's a lot of links. I think we need a WG for this work. It feels to me that we need to: 1. move all the text into wiki pages. 2. move/blend/re-organize. 3. yank text *out* of the wiki into process BCPs as appropriate. 4. consolidate whatever is left. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@xxxxxxxxxxxx> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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