Jay, break tiktok, nothing else breaks. it's just an app from a private company. myspace was once valued highly, too. break dns and root servers, many things start to break. the web, certificates, you name it. interlocked and interconnected industry, airlines... dns -is- the structure of the internet. the domain name industry, though it's your background, is not as significant as this infrastructure. it's just an opportunistic rentier overlay. dns controls and connects what we think of as the internet. oh, and breaking dns also breaks tiktok. and likely breaks stock markets too. paper valuations are really not something to be impressed by. working infrastructure is. Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx > On 15 Aug 2024, at 21:05, Jay Daley <exec-director@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> >> On 15 Aug 2024, at 11:49, Lloyd W <lloyd.wood=40yahoo.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> because the Internet is under de facto US control and always has been, >> currently through ICANN. > > You are confusing the domain name system with the Internet. Not only are they different, they do not share the same fate. To illustrate this: five years ago TikTok was unheard of and now it valued over $100bn, far exceeding even a generous valuation of the domain name industry, and all on a handful of domain names. > > Jay > >> >> ICANN now has "global multistakeholder governance", gradually supplanting >> US Department of Commerce oversight, for what that's worth. >> >> A new, unique jurisdiction suggests new and unique laws. Unlikely. >> The internet runs on physical hardware located in existing countries, >> bound by their laws. >> >> Lloyd Wood >> lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>> On 15 Aug 2024, at 02:15, Nick Lockheart <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Addressing only the question of Jurisdiction, let me ask this: >>> >>> Who owns Antarctica? >>> >>> Why couldn't nation states sign a treaty that establishes a new, unique >>> jurisdiction for the Internet, that protects one of Earth's greatest >>> treasures? >> > > -- > Jay Daley > IETF Executive Director > exec-director@xxxxxxxx >
