On 8/1/24 07:36, Chris Box wrote:
Note that discussion of moderation practices and policies now takes
place on mod-discuss@xxxxxxxx, which was created on July 10 [3]. Per
the IETF list charter, the existence of this list makes such
discussion no longer appropriate for ietf@xxxxxxxx.
This illustrates one or more problems with the current IETF list charter.
1. In the past the IETF list has served as a way to call broad attention
to something going on in a particular working group that might be of
wider interest, especially if that WG were working on something
potentially harmful to other interests. If the current IETF list
charter is interpreted as strictly as Chris suggests, this important
function is no longer permitted.
2. Also, the charter now provides an opportunity for the IESG to "bury"
important discussions of general interest by putting them in one or more
"somebody else's problem" lists.
More generally, for many years I've had the impression that IETF was
over-siloed, that there were too many issues of broad importance that
were being buried in obscure mailing lists, and that there are simply
too many lists for anyone to keep track of all of those that are
relevant. I understand that it's hard to have the same discussion
happening in several different places, but the ability of IETF to
function as a community that helps the Internet work better is being
compromised by having too many silos.
Keith
