Re: TELNET to HISTORIC Re: FTP

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Rob Sayre wrote:

As it happens, the curl documentation makes a good case for historic to
me, or at least it frames the situation well no matter your opinion.

No, not at all.

https://ec.haxx.se/ftp/

"FTP, the File Transfer Protocol, is probably the oldest network protocol
that curl supports—it was created in the early 1970s. The official spec
that still is the go-to documentation is RFC 959, from 1985, published well
over a decade before the first curl release.

It merely means FTP and its implementations are more stable and
secure than newer protocols still being modified.

FTP was created in a different era of the Internet and computers and as
such it works a little bit differently than most other protocols. These
differences can often be ignored and things just works, but they are also
important to know at times when things do not run as planned."

That is just misunderstanding at least for

	https://ec.haxx.se/ftp/twoconnections.htm

When transferring a file from a sending FTP server to a receiving
FTP server, we need an FTP controlling client, from which two
controlling connection are created to the sending and the
receiving servers.

Then, the controlling client send commands to establish a data
connection between the sending and the receiving servers and
file transfer can begin.

If the data connection is active for the sending server, the
connection is passive for the receiving server and vice versa.

That https does not support such transfer is because https can
assume client side always act as receiving server, which is
not a proper assumption for file transfer in general.

						Masataka Ohta




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