note that a full, but non-public, archive is supposed to be kept and can be retirieved in a legal discovery process but it currently can not be publically searched at teh IETF site Scott --- >From stbryant@xxxxxxxxx Fri Sep 10 10:25:04 2004 X-Original-To: sob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Delivered-To: sob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx X-BrightmailFiltered: true Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:24:46 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant <stbryant@xxxxxxxxx> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scott bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: archives (was The other parts of the report.... References: <20040910133022.46082861D6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> In-Reply-To: <20040910133022.46082861D6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit scott bradner wrote: >the last time we talked about this Jorge said that he saw no problem >(legally) to just offer a takedown process to anyone who felt that >they did not want their ID to last longer than N days > >but, to me, its quite silly to pretend that IDs actually disapear >from the net just because teh IETF takes it off of our web site > > I completely agree with Scott. I have always viewed the IETF's insistence on deleting the drafts as a somewhat quaint and unhelpful, historic custom. A consequence of this process is that there is no definitive record of drafts for change control and IPR reference purposes. I think that we should keep a full archive, but if that is not deemed possible we should at least keep an archive of the WG drafts up until the point at which they become RFCs. Without such an archive there is only a partial record of WG change consensus. - Stewart > > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf