> Following on from that does the expiry indicate that the copyright reverts > back from ISOC to the authors? I hadn't expected that to be the case. note that the only rights that the ISOC has for IDs is to publish them and to make derivative works (unless they are marked so as to not allow derivative works) the autor retains all other rights the granting (not transfer) of the publication and derivative rights does not end if the ID gets removed from the IETF public ID directory Scott _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf