Hi John > On 5 Jun 2024, at 03:53, John C Klensin <john@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Robert, > > A related question. Is it safe to use the same email address and > password for Postorius as for the datatracker? It is never safe to use the same credentials for different systems. While everyone involved in tools development aims to maintain secure systems, and external security auditors are used, nobody can guarantee the security of any system. > For those of us who > prefer to use relatively complex passwords and different passwords > for different sites/organizations, and who use password managers to > make that tolerable, managing different passwords for more or less > the same domain is feasible, but not a lot of fun. The use of password managers is good security practice and strongly recommended. For info, this is required of all LLC staff and Secretariat for IETF systems access. > I assume that > setting up Mailman3 to allow access to management/ownership functions > via the datatracker was considered but not feasible. (The discussion about this was some time ago) The plan is for IETF participants to manage their mailing list subscriptions directly within Datatracker using custom forms that we develop that provide significantly more functionality than the default MM3 screens. In particular, these will actively support the complexity of needing to be subscribed to such a large number of lists to effectively participate in the IETF. See the following concept visualisation from more details: https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/Mail_Subscription_Mockup_2021-10-12.pdf Any discussions about this are best on tools-discuss. cheers Jay > > john > > > --On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 20:35 -0500 Robert Sparks > <rjsparks@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> On 6/4/24 4:31 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >>> Robert, >>> >>> I think the problem here is that, as far as I know, there has not >>> been a clear "all hands" announcement that people now need to >>> create new accounts. >> >> Yes, there hasn't been, at least to lists. This has been an >> under-communication problem and I apologize for it. >> >> We'll send more soon to try to address that gap. Apologies again >> that it is later in the process than it should have been. > > -- Jay Daley IETF Executive Director exec-director@xxxxxxxx
