White or black is not the same, IPv10 and IPv6 also not the same, if you think IPv6 is the solution, then we tried it since 1995 and it didn’t fully work, now the internet is broken into two pieces.
From: Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 9:20:02 PM
To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Salz, Rich <rsalz@xxxxxxxxxx>; ietf <IETF@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Adding IPv10 I-D to the IETF 119 meeting agenda
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 9:20:02 PM
To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Salz, Rich <rsalz@xxxxxxxxxx>; ietf <IETF@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Adding IPv10 I-D to the IETF 119 meeting agenda
as you have been told many times - IPv6
> On Feb 24, 2024, at 2:10 PM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Excuse me, what is other solution you already deployed?
>
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 7:42:13 PM
> To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Salz, Rich <rsalz@xxxxxxxxxx>; ietf <IETF@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Adding IPv10 I-D to the IETF 119 meeting agenda Khaled
>
> the IETF has a deployed solution that, if you have a smartphone on most cellular phone networks in the US, you have been using
>
> Scott
>
> (I know this is feeding the troll but sometimes it just feels necessary )
>
> > On Feb 24, 2024, at 11:55 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Rich,
> >
> > I’m still waiting for an official announcement regarding whether the IETF had a solution or my solution can be used, it means disrespectful to say what are you doing at DELL, this is a large organization and they are confident about what they are doing, and they support innovation and I’m honored to work for them heer, if you cannot do the same. “ support innovation”, then why are you working there, anyway, let’s find a way to talk in-person and discuss the technical solution together.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Khaled Omar
> > Senior Servuce Deliver Engineer
> > DELL Technology, Egypt
> >
> > Get Outlook for iOS
> > From: Salz, Rich <rsalz@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 6:16:32 PM
> > To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>; ietf <IETF@xxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Adding IPv10 I-D to the IETF 119 meeting agenda <!-- @font-face {font-family:Wingdings} @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"} @font-face {font-family:Calibri} @font-face {font-family:Aptos} p.x_MsoNormal, li.x_MsoNormal, div.x_MsoNormal {margin:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif} a:link, span.x_MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline} p.x_MsoListParagraph, li.x_MsoListParagraph, div.x_MsoListParagraph {margin-top:0in; margin-right:0in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:.5in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif} span.x_EmailStyle18 {font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif; color:windowtext} .x_MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt} @page WordSection1 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in} div.x_WordSection1 {} ol {margin-bottom:0in} ul {margin-bottom:0in} --> We have been down this road with you before. Previous attempts did not end well, with you insisting the document that you submitted and granted rights for be withdrawn, and threatening legal action.
> >
> > You think you have a good solution to what you see as a large problem, and you have been unable to convince anyone here.
> >
> > Could you please give the green light to the IPv10 I-D to be discussed during the next IETF meeting.
> >
> > Unless you find a second person that is willing to work on this, I do not believe the IETF should allocate any time to it. I do not know what you do at DELL, but I assume you have some industry colleagues. Talk to them and see if you can get them to work with you on this. You and I exchanged a few emails privately, and this is what I suggested a month ago.
> >
> > • You can guide me to the correct Work Group, if IntArea still fits, then please confirm.
> >
> > Perhaps this is just because you wrote a casual email, but an Area is different from a Work*ing* Group. Look at https://www.ietf.org/standards/process/new-work/ for some information.
> >
>
> On Feb 24, 2024, at 2:10 PM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Excuse me, what is other solution you already deployed?
>
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 7:42:13 PM
> To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Salz, Rich <rsalz@xxxxxxxxxx>; ietf <IETF@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Adding IPv10 I-D to the IETF 119 meeting agenda Khaled
>
> the IETF has a deployed solution that, if you have a smartphone on most cellular phone networks in the US, you have been using
>
> Scott
>
> (I know this is feeding the troll but sometimes it just feels necessary )
>
> > On Feb 24, 2024, at 11:55 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Rich,
> >
> > I’m still waiting for an official announcement regarding whether the IETF had a solution or my solution can be used, it means disrespectful to say what are you doing at DELL, this is a large organization and they are confident about what they are doing, and they support innovation and I’m honored to work for them heer, if you cannot do the same. “ support innovation”, then why are you working there, anyway, let’s find a way to talk in-person and discuss the technical solution together.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Khaled Omar
> > Senior Servuce Deliver Engineer
> > DELL Technology, Egypt
> >
> > Get Outlook for iOS
> > From: Salz, Rich <rsalz@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 6:16:32 PM
> > To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>; ietf <IETF@xxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Adding IPv10 I-D to the IETF 119 meeting agenda <!-- @font-face {font-family:Wingdings} @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"} @font-face {font-family:Calibri} @font-face {font-family:Aptos} p.x_MsoNormal, li.x_MsoNormal, div.x_MsoNormal {margin:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif} a:link, span.x_MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline} p.x_MsoListParagraph, li.x_MsoListParagraph, div.x_MsoListParagraph {margin-top:0in; margin-right:0in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:.5in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif} span.x_EmailStyle18 {font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif; color:windowtext} .x_MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt} @page WordSection1 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in} div.x_WordSection1 {} ol {margin-bottom:0in} ul {margin-bottom:0in} --> We have been down this road with you before. Previous attempts did not end well, with you insisting the document that you submitted and granted rights for be withdrawn, and threatening legal action.
> >
> > You think you have a good solution to what you see as a large problem, and you have been unable to convince anyone here.
> >
> > Could you please give the green light to the IPv10 I-D to be discussed during the next IETF meeting.
> >
> > Unless you find a second person that is willing to work on this, I do not believe the IETF should allocate any time to it. I do not know what you do at DELL, but I assume you have some industry colleagues. Talk to them and see if you can get them to work with you on this. You and I exchanged a few emails privately, and this is what I suggested a month ago.
> >
> > • You can guide me to the correct Work Group, if IntArea still fits, then please confirm.
> >
> > Perhaps this is just because you wrote a casual email, but an Area is different from a Work*ing* Group. Look at https://www.ietf.org/standards/process/new-work/ for some information.
> >
>
