It appears that Randy Presuhn <randy_presuhn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: >Hi - > >An analogy - at my local supermarket, there are expiration dates both on >packaged sushi and on table salt. This proposal seems to be optimizing >for the table salt use case, for which the expiration date is really not >useful at all, rather than for the sushi, where it's really critical. Maybe I'm missing something, but expired I-Ds seem a lot more like salt than like sushi. If you have very old salt, you might need to give it a shake or two before you use it. If you have very old sushi, it can kill you. This discussion tells me that we have wildly varying ideas of what I-D expiration means, and it also seems to depend on where the draft is going, e.g., an expired draft that's been adopted by a WG means something different from one that's in the Independent stream or one that's just sitting there not adopted by anyone. R's, John