Hi Mark, Mirja,
At 04:32 PM 15-12-2023, Mark Nottingham wrote:
This is an appeal to human rights impacts, not impact on the Internet infrastructure. While I suspect most IETF participants care deeply about human rights, no one comes to the IETF or IAB to get a read on the human rights impacts of an action. Those who are designing and implementing the laws you express concern about already have access to a variety of resources (internal and external) with far more expertise regarding human rights impact.
Philip raised some points about civil liberties in his reply to your email [1]. Getting back to what Mark wrote, my primary interest in one or more working groups is not about human rights. I doubt that, for example, the governments of the United States or the United Kingdom would be sending their employees to an IETF meeting to discuss human rights. It is about the same for commercially-sponsored employees.
There are IAB participants in the countries in which those laws are being proposed. Those participants have the ability, if I am not mistaken, to provide input to their elected representatives if they have any concerns in regards to their rights.
Mark mentioned internal resources. The countries mentioned in the IAB statement would likely have in-country experts on the subject of human rights. Those experts would likely have access to funding. Why would the country need external help from the IAB on human rights?
Regards,
S. Moonesamy
1. It took me a few hours to understand the perspective from which he was arguing.
