-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "Iljitsch" == Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@xxxxxxxxx> writes: Iljitsch> ...it doesn't address the problem of overlapping Iljitsch> sessions. Sessions are going to overlap. This is only a Iljitsch> problem when people want to attend more than one during Iljitsch> any particular slot. The fact that people want to attend a Iljitsch> session makes it highly unlikely that such a session is so Iljitsch> unproductive that scrapping it alltoghether would be Iljitsch> better. (I don't believe IETFers are so stupid they keep Iljitsch> showing up for unproductive sessions.) I can think of a number of BOFs, and even some WGs that are very well attended, but have not made any progress. My original contention was that these groups are either stuck, or they have the *wrong amount* of face time. They get two hours, sometimes four (over two days). Yet, to make the decision they need to progress, they really need three days of intensive time, and they probably need to have a smaller (more manageable) group attending. Finally, as has been discussed previously (particularly during our peak, when we didn't fit in the hotels anymore), with wireless, people can occupy seats and not pay attention. - -- ] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[ ] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQCVAwUBQRI0XYqHRg3pndX9AQEFhQP8D/01SaWFAcglBKPRWfcfeVieBCstid2n qmkwI/BXpbkjObmStJQKofvxff7/R/bArshe8tZXu8G5fqA4yh7c2QBRVbJCRFDj H9xHnxuKw5U9STzfOIIkQe4OGK/Oq/dttAbU0Nuixg6PIBM4k1Fk0jLCw1BvIdBF w5FIx8eCXO0= =8DVr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf