--On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 22:11 +0200 Patrik Fältström <paf=40paftech.se@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> 2 aug. 2023 kl. 18:43 skrev >> jordi.palet=40theipv6company.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: >> >> So no allowing the participants to hide their identity or not >> be present in attendance list is not enforceable, because we >> don't check authenticity of people. Is then the >> "enforcing" possible? Is that a sign that the IETF >> transparency is not based on who is who but in actual >> contributions? > > No, but you force people that lie to lie, and that is a first > big step in transparency and evaluation of authenticity of > requests and claims. Patrik, I completely agree, but with one qualification: I don't believe that the IETF should be telling participants that the right solution to a problem they are facing is to lie. That is different from the natural (?) tendency of liars to lie. I'm particularly sensitive to the distinction (and hope I don't have to get into the detail here) because I was recently told that the best (perhaps only) way to get a new version of an I-D posted was to lie about some requested information. best, john
