On Mon, 31 Jul 2023, Ben Laurie wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 at 22:27, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
* As John Levine more or less pointed out below, getting
encryption right means finding mutual understandings and
understanding what will inevitably be a somewhat delicate
balance. ...
The core issue with these "tradeoffs" is they are binary. You either have
encryption, or you don't. The whole notion that there is a spectrum on
which you can choose your place is flawed.
There is a lot more to this debate beyond putting back doors in crypto
systems, which we all agree is a bad idea. For example, see this paper by
James Grimmelmann about how you do content moderation in systems with E2E
encryption. He describes some surprisingly good technical work Facebook
has done, with a nuanced discussion about how it interacts with the many
US laws about messaging privacy:
https://james.grimmelmann.net/files/articles/content-moderation-e2ee.pdf
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@xxxxxxxxx, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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