> From: "Jasen Strutt" > Would you give it a rest already? Take your issue(s) up with the appropriate > person(s) in a separate, mutually exclusive thread, and stop blasting the > IETF list. I would rather not offend you, but please consider that good advice. Please do not respond to those whose only interest is provoking a response, any response from anyone and so being reassured they exist and that people care about them, even if those concerns are negative. Many of us know of their messages only when people respond to them, and would rather not have that particular clipping service. The differences among trolling, trollbaiting, countering trolls, and everything else related to trolling are almost entirely in the minds of the players. To the rest of the world it is all useless, costly noise. As for the Internet experts who still don't recognize phishing or Microsoft worm noise when it hits their mailboxes, the Secretariat should interpret complaints sent to the thousands of readers of this list as requests to be unsubscribed with prejudice from all IETF mailing lists, particularly when their complaints are double-encrypted in base64 and HTML. Such people are better served reading IETF mailing lists through archives such as http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/ I promise to try to apply that policy to the minor, non-IETF lists that I run. I don't intend any criticism of those who choose on their own to use archives instead of subscribing. That's how I follow some mailing lists that for various reasons I choose to not give my address. Vernon Schryver vjs@xxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf