Could we try to keep our narcissistic eye on the ball here?
I realize that the only thing on this list that matters to you is you, and normally I do what I imagine most of the list is doing: I suffer your rants in silence. But recognizing this stuff is actually important, and if there are people on the IETF list who don't, that's a situation that cries out for attention. Please, for once, let's assume that you are *not* the topic, and stay on whatever the topic actually is. You can trot out your personal demons (or daemons, for that matter) under some other subject line ... and, by all evidence, you certainly will. In the meantime, let's not treat every message on this list as your personal song cue.
Is this really too much to ask?
Dean Anderson wrote:
Given the recent unreasonable behavior by IETF staff where they really are blocking blocking of email from members, it is not very unreasonable to be fooled by such a thing. People have come to expect this from the IETF.
Dean Anderson Av8 Internet, Inc
P.S. I am still blocked from emailing DNS WG chair, and prevented from
registering complaint about improper DNS WG RFC process activity by ISC
and DNS WG chair Austein, because the IETF chairman Alvestrand demands
that such complaints be made offlist, yet chairman Alvestrand refuses to
require the WG Chairs to accept email from participants. Under chairman
Alvestrand's leadership, the IETF can choose to ignore complaints based on
the participant, rather than the merit of the complaint. And Although
this runs contrary to every stated principle of the IETF, contrary to many
suggestions of many other participants, contrary to civil courtesy, and
contrary to lawful behavior, chairman Alvestrand is not moved from his
course. He leaves us no choice but to engage lawyers against the IETF. This is very sad.
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Michel Py wrote:
Darn Jasen, you just stopped the entertainment. It's a lot of fun watching how many could be caught by phishing.
Michel.
________________________________________ From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jasen Strutt Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:02 PM To: 'Trang Nguyen'; 'Sean Weekes'; support@xxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Email account utilization warning.
Did anyone take mention of the virus infected file that was attached to the email? Did anyone take mention that the header information is junk? I hope spam and phishing are not foreign terms to you.
Please perform 20 seconds of due diligence prior to jumping to conclusions and blasting the IETF list.
Regards-
Jasen
-----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trang Nguyen Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 1:57 PM To: Sean Weekes; support@xxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Email account utilization warning.
Same with me. Please don't cut us off without reasonable explanation.
Regards,
Trang Nguyen -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sean Weekes Sent: July 6, 2004 2:58 PM To: support@xxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Email account utilization warning. Please can you reinstate my account or at least explain in more detail the reason for your actions here.
I'm not happy that you arbitrarily undertake this course of action without prior notification or discussion.
I also am at a loss as to why you have done this.
Please can you elaborate.
Regards. Sean Weekes General Manager, ICONZ www.iconz.co.nz
________________________________________ From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of support@xxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, 6 July 2004 7:08 p.m. To: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Email account utilization warning. Dear user of Ietf.org,
Your e-mail account has been temporary disabled because of unauthorized access.
For more information see the attached file.
Kind regards,
The Ietf.org team http://www.ietf.org
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