Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero IETF

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On 05-Apr-23 12:21, Bob Hinden wrote:
Brian,

On Apr 4, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In the ideal world there'd be no presentation because everybody read the draft, one slide with open issues and then the discussion.

I don’t agree that there should be no presentations.

Fair enough; what I am really getting at is "I am here to make a presentation" presentations.

Slides can be useful to focus the discussion, even if people have read and understand the drafts.   For example, a short overview and then a slide for each open issues.

Yes, but I've seen too many people who don't manage the "short" aspect.


Slides are also good for non-native english speakers, where reading the material helps their comprehension of what is being discussed.

If it's done well, yes, but it isn't easy to do this well.
Slides can be useful, but not surprisingly can be abused.   We all seen slides that attempt to put the whole document into a single slide,  but this doesn’t mean they can’t be useful.

What is needed is for w.g. chairs to review slides and work with the presenters to make useful presentations.

Fully agree - but often the slide deck has been composed one day before.

   Brian


Bob



    Brian

Additional tracks and/or longer days and/or full-length Fridays will likely be needed and the community should weigh those against their downsides for in-person and remote attendees.
Lars
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