Re: What exactly is an internet (service) provider? (FWD: I-D ACTION:draft-klensin-ip-service-terms-03.txt)

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John C Klensin;

You made, at least, two mistakes, minor and major ones.

A minor mistake is that you think you can let people outside
of IETF use your terminology, if you give loose enough
terminlogy.

As you introduce "Web connectivity", such people (including
mobile operators in Japan) claim that they are ISPs, because
they are offering web connectivity over X.25 without IP. That
is, "The definitions proposed here are clearly of little value
if service providers and vendors are not willing to adopt them."
is applicable to your draft.

A major mistake is that you are forcing people within IETF
use your terminology even though you are fully aware that
"some members of the IETF community that some of these
connectively models are simply "broken" or "not really an
Internet service"".

						Masataka Ohta


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