Re: BCP 83 PR actions and new media

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On 11/10/22 03:25, Lars Eggert wrote:

PR actions per BCP 83 can only be used in response to on-list behavior. I agree this is far from ideal as our participation channels have multiplied.
Right, I was asking about what "should" be the case, since there seems to be some interest in revising BCP 83.   I'm not sure what I personally believe should be the case, since I think there's some utility in people being able to speak their minds freely, and private communications are less likely to be disruptive than public communications.   On the other hand, in recent years it has seemed that sometimes people collaborate to pressure or even harass people via private email, and on occasion this practice even seems to have been driven by management.   If nothing else such a practice lacks transparency.

If you feel you are being harassed as an IETF participant in general and/or in ways other than on mailing lists, please see the IETF Anti-Harassment Policy [1], i.e., contact the IESG or - if privacy is a concern - the ombudsteam [2].

I'm aware of those mechanisms, but in my limited experience with them they've worked rather poorly, and (at least at that time) were clearly not operated independently of IETF management.

Keith





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