--On Thursday, October 27, 2022 22:27 -0500 Adam Roach <adam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 10/27/2022 10:24 PM, John C Klensin wrote: >> But, again, your suggestion and mine don't seem very different >> in practice, especially if there are no further inappropriate >> postings. > I will reiterate my previous point about the unlikelihood of > this outcome, given that there have been inappropriate > postings by Dan in this thread itself. I believe at least most of those posting preceded the messages from Dan about what he now understood and would not repeat in the future. If there are exceptions since then (I don't recall any but have found these threads someone overwhelming), I believe they fall into the range in which there seems to be considerable disagreement in the community about appropriateness or lack thereof. Your ability to predict the future may, of course, be better than mine, but I believe we owe it to ourselves, as well as to him, to try and let him try. If doing so fails (i.e., produces inappropriate postings as you predict), I think the best way to evaluate the difference between my proposal and Pete's would be to figure out how long it takes to invoke the PR-action and get him off these lists. john -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call