> Il 27/10/2022 00:15 CEST Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> ha scritto: > > On 26/10/2022 22:40, Keith Moore wrote: > > > > So while I understand and accept the argument that we shouldn't use > > satire or sarcasm in IETF, I think it will take time for English > > speakers who are accustomed to that convention, to learn to not respond > > to such arguments in the conventional way. > > IMO the above is not correct. A tiny tiny proportion of > IETF emails I've read (and I've read a lot) contain any > satire or sarcasm. Almost everyone has learned to not do > that already, years ago, without having to be told or get > training, perhaps largely because it's utterly obvious. I chose not to participate in this discussion but here I have to point out something. I am one of those who routinely use satire, sarcasm, jokes, metaphors, emphasis and more rhetorical and linguistic devices to communicate, and this, in addition to being a way for expressing my own self, is actually considered a sign of good writing and arguing skills in my culture. I had to learn to self-censor myself at the IETF; and still, sometimes I just fail and people complain and I feel out of place and stop participating (e.g. see the alt-dns thread on DNSOP). So, well, this is just one more of the IETF's exclusionary attitudes; possibly it is impossible not to have any, but let's not pretend that some social prohibitions (the ones the majority likes) are more justified than others. -- Vittorio Bertola | Head of Policy & Innovation, Open-Xchange vittorio.bertola@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Office @ Via Treviso 12, 10144 Torino, Italy -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call
