Re: [Uri-review] Fwd: Re: [IANA #1240282] drop uri scheme removal run-around

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> On 10/11/2022 6:18 AM EDT Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>  
> > On 10/04/2022 7:09 PM EDT Martin J. Dürst <duerst@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > Hello Graham, others,
> > 
> > On 2022-10-04 20:17, Graham Klyne wrote:
> > > That change control was relinquished when your entry was removed.  I then created a new entry under IESG change control to record the fact that there had been some discussion of the indicated scheme.
> > 
> > That may well be what has happened, and is a good course of proceeding 
> > given Tim's retraction. However, as Tim mentions, 
> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/drop is still 
> > available with the old data, and 
> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml points to it.
> > 
> > So it looks like something fell through the cracks at IANA or somewhere 
> > else. It shouldn't be too difficult to get it fixed.
> > 
> > Regards,    Martin.
> 
> 
> Another week has passed by and it's still there.  
> What is the problem?
>  


And another week has gone by and it's not deleted.  Why?  What is so special about the drop uri that you just can't let it go?  



> > 
> > > I now consider this matter closed.
> > > 
> > > #g
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > >> On 4 Oct 2022, at 11:08, Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Graham, What are you talking about? Incase you were unable to find it, here is the link where you will see the change controller is me.
> > >> https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/drop
> > >>
> > >> And at no point did that ever change to the IESG.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 10/04/2022 3:17 AM EDT Graham Klyne <gk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> We *did* delete the original registration, as you requested, then added a new one under IESG change control. So your request has been carried out.  The new registration has no formal connection to your previous one, so I see no grounds for your concern.
> > >>>
> > >>> It is often useful for dispersed organisations like IETF to maintain a visible trail of their history, in matters small and large.  That’s why there’s a “historical” category of registration.
> > >>>
> > >>> #g
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>>>> On 4 Oct 2022, at 05:52, Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This is really sad that you can't even remove a provisional uri from the IANA registry without some kind of orchestrated obstruction.  Starts at the bottom.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
> > >>>>> From: Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>> To: iana-prot-param@xxxxxxxx
> > >>>>> Date: 10/03/2022 6:22 PM EDT
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [IANA #1240282] drop uri scheme
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Sabrina,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Graham is not a change controller as you can clearly see on my uri registrations, only I am and therefore he cannot control any changes.  So please make my desired changes which is to delete the provisional drop uri scheme from the registry.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Tim
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 10/03/2022 4:10 PM EDT Sabrina Tanamal via RT <iana-prot-param@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi Tim,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Unfortunately, the other provisional URI schemes were deleted incorrectly. Per Graham, we will need to create new “tombstone” entries to assist people who may have heard that the scheme once existed. The status field for those entries will be marked “historical” rather than “provisional,” and your information will be deleted from the registry.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Please see the proposed new templates below.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sabrina Tanamal
> > >>>>>> Lead IANA Services Specialist
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ====
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [[
> > >>>>>> Scheme name:
> > >>>>>> drop
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Status:
> > >>>>>> Historical
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Applications/protocols that use this scheme name:
> > >>>>>> (Unknown. This scheme was previously registered provisionally in 2019, subsequently updated, and then withdrawn in 2022 by original registrant.)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Contact:
> > >>>>>> IESG
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Change controller:
> > >>>>>> IESG
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> References:
> > >>>>>> (unavailable)
> > >>>>>> ]]
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed Sep 28 23:27:35 2022, tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Sabrina,
> > >>>>>>> I've deleted provisional URIs before.  UPT was the last of mine to be
> > >>>>>>> deleted I think.  So please delete the drop uri.  Thank you.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Tim
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 09/28/2022 6:09 PM EDT Sabrina Tanamal via RT <iana-prot-
> > >>>>>>>> param@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi Tim,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Graham Klyne suggested the following:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The registration procedure doesn't say anything about deletion, but
> > >>>>>>>> suggests
> > >>>>>>>> that once registered, a scheme is changed to "historic" when
> > >>>>>>>> discontinued.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> So, I suggest changing it to historic by replacing the current
> > >>>>>>>> template with
> > >>>>>>>> this (using the simpler, updated template):
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> [[
> > >>>>>>>> Scheme name:
> > >>>>>>>> drop
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Status:
> > >>>>>>>> Historical
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Applications/protocols that use this scheme name:
> > >>>>>>>> (Unknown. Scheme registration withdrawn by original registrant.)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Contact:
> > >>>>>>>> Tim McSweeney <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Change controller:
> > >>>>>>>> Tim McSweeney <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> References:
> > >>>>>>>> (unknown)
> > >>>>>>>> ]]
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ====
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Please let us know if we should proceed with the changes listed
> > >>>>>>>> above.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sabrina Tanamal
> > >>>>>>>> Lead IANA Services Specialist
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Wed Sep 28 12:59:07 2022, tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Hello,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Would you please remove the drop uri scheme from the uri registry.
> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Tim
> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> Uri-review mailing list
> > >>>> Uri-review@xxxxxxxx
> > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uri-review
> > > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Prof. Dr.sc. Martin J. Dürst
> > Department of Intelligent Information Technology
> > College of Science and Engineering
> > Aoyama Gakuin University
> > Fuchinobe 5-1-10, Chuo-ku, Sagamihara
> > 252-5258 Japan





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