> > 2 okt. 2022 kl. 20:13 skrev Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > On this aspect... > >> On 02/10/2022 10:12, Adam Roach wrote: >> Oh, definitely. I could name a few additional episodes from my own recollection, but those aren't really what I'm referencing in my previous message. What I'm seeing -- and this is admittedly subjective because I have neither the time nor energy to quantify it -- is an increase in /frequency/ of such events, and an increase in the number of specific individuals who choose to participate in such a fashion as a matter of course, rather than simply when passions run high. To be clear, it's not good in either case; but it's the /routine/ toxicity that makes working here such a uniquely unpleasant experience nowadays. > > I wonder if there's any less subjective metric that could be > applied to mailing list archives? > > Reason to ask: I don't share Adam's perception that toxic > posts on IETF lists are more frequent these days - if I had > to guess I'd say those, and other rudenesses, are notably > less frequent compared to a decade or two ago. > > I wonder if there's a correlation between such perceptions > and the extent to which people partake in the usual online > social networks that are reputedly quite toxic? I don't have > accounts on any of those myself but wouldn't be surprised if > perceptions of email traffic were affected by postings by the > same folk, or different folk on similar topics, seen in other > fora. I agree. -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call
