Folks, This confusion about what STDs mean and what they might do for us finally convinced me to turn an idea that has been kicked around a few times into an I-D. It is in the hands of the posting queue and should, I assume, be announced today or tomorrow. Watch for an announcement for draft-klensin-std-repurposing-00.txt or something like that. High points... * STDs become a separate document series, independent of the underlying RFCs. * Their content is a function of IESG protocol actions or the equivalent, so that they define exactly what a particular standard "means" and what its content is at some point in time. They are also a place to put comments and suggestions about usability and context to the extent to which the IETF wishes to make such statements. * They get activated at "Proposed", not "Internet Standard". * They contain explicit change history and tracking info. It may not be right (and will need work even if it is), but the document may at least help focus this, and some closely related, discussions. I expect discussion to occur on the Newtrk list. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf