I have long thought that the other document designations (STD, FYI, ...) are bound to continue to be confusing minor labels without much mind share as long as there documents are also RFCs. The only hope to get people to REALLY switch to using these new disgnations in general is to make those documents NOT be RFCs. Thanks, Donald ====================================================================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd dee3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 155 Beaver Street +1-508-634-2066(h) +1-508-786-7554(w) Milford, MA 01757 USA Donald.Eastlake@xxxxxxxxxxxx On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, John C Klensin wrote: > Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 10:15:53 -0400 > From: John C Klensin <john@xxxxxxx> > To: ietf@xxxxxxxx > Cc: rfc-editor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: STD series of documents > > Folks, > > This confusion about what STDs mean and what they might do for > us finally convinced me to turn an idea that has been kicked > around a few times into an I-D. It is in the hands of the > posting queue and should, I assume, be announced today or > tomorrow. Watch for an announcement for > draft-klensin-std-repurposing-00.txt or something like that. > > High points... > > * STDs become a separate document series, independent of > the underlying RFCs. > > * Their content is a function of IESG protocol actions > or the equivalent, so that they define exactly what a > particular standard "means" and what its content is at > some point in time. They are also a place to put > comments and suggestions about usability and context to > the extent to which the IETF wishes to make such > statements. > > * They get activated at "Proposed", not "Internet > Standard". > > * They contain explicit change history and tracking info. > > It may not be right (and will need work even if it is), but the > document may at least help focus this, and some closely related, > discussions. > > I expect discussion to occur on the Newtrk list. > > john > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf