I find the idea of the IETF taking a page from the corporate world repulsive. On 9/12/22 18:11, Warren Kumari wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 3:15 AM, Marc Petit-Huguenin < > marc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Don't forget the cover sheet on your TPS report, and everything will be >> fine. >> > > > Yeah, but no. > > I must admit that the "360" part of the name *is* somewhat > corpspeakbuzzwordy, but in spite of that I actually like this idea. If > fairly regularly ask my chairs for feedback on what I can do better, etc - > but: > 1: I'm absolutely stinking perfect and there is nothing I can possibly do > to improve or > 2: chairs are actually humans[0], and don't want to seem "mean", and so > they say I'm awesome even though I'm not > or > 3: they fear retribution. > > I'm *fairly* sure it isn't 3, and I'm quite sure it isn't 1, and so I think > that having some sort of large, anonymous feedback thingie where chairs and > authors and shepherds and similar can provide feedback is actually helpful > for me to understand what I can do to be better... > > W > > [0]: I know, who wouldathunk, right? > > >> On 9/9/22 23:05, Lloyd W wrote: >> >> it's best to think of an AD, or indeed any contributor to the IETF, as an >> unpaid employee, with all the binding and responsibility that comes with >> being an employee. >> >> per RFC8712, IETF LLC is a subsidiary of ISOC LLC, and 360 degree reviews >> of employees are considered best US corporate practice, so it seems clear >> why the IETF has adopted them. >> >> Think of it as a corporate risk assessment strategy. Our people are our >> greatest assets, and ADs are people too. >> >> Assets must be controlled. >> >> Lloyd Wood >> lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> On 10 Sep 2022, at 01:38, Leif Johansson <leifj@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> I just got a bunch of these 360 reviews of various ADs in my inbox. >> >> Setting aside the question of the type of questions asked and the somewhat >> strange (at least to me) notion that ADs and other volunteers are treated >> as employees to be reviewed by other people in the community I'm very >> curious to learn where this practice was discussed. >> >> I admit not paying enoug attention to the IETF process development effort >> these days (which seems to take up as much volume as the development of >> standards) so am sure I must have missed a very interesting thread >> somewhere... >> >> Just point me to the relevant list archives and I'll be very happy. >> >> Cheers Leif >> >> > -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Blog: https://marc.petit-huguenin.org Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug
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