Re: Bad/Good ideas and damage control by experienced participants

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On 6/22/22 13:42, Miles Fidelman wrote:

How much more effective it would be if someone posted a periodic "netiquitte reminder," and maybe "how to ask good questions / craft substantive responses" post -- and then folks took rude people to task PRIVATELY.

IMO that would destroy what value IETF still has by having a chilling effect on technical discussion.    Taking "rude" people to task is almost never helpful; it just increases the overall level of hostility in IETF.

If you want to offer private feedback, maybe start by trying to understand the position of the person who is so frustrated that it causes them to be "rude".   In a great many cases you might find that they're not being heard or are otherwise being slighted by others, at least in their perceptions.   Also keep in mind that private feedback is most useful when it comes from someone whom the receiver respects.

People can say what they like in private email, but I suggest NOT "taking people to task", but rather listening.   Then maybe that person can figure out a better way to say what they're trying to say, ideally without being prompted for how to do that.

Keith





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