Keith Moore wrote on 20/06/2022 19:36:
We REALLY need to get past the notion that Bad People Discouraging Newcomers are the problem with IETF. I'm 100% serious. Our problems are MUCH deeper than that, and that kind of argument is inherently divisive because it encourages efforts to get rid of and/or marginalize the supposed Bad People. That kind of thinking is toxic, and utterly incompatible with building consensus.
it's not helpful to characterise this in terms of "bad people". The underlying issues relate to approach and attitude, rather than personalisation.
The reality is that newcomers are put off participating at the IETF, and there's even an ID which touches on the topic: draft-opsawg-operators-ietf. There may other problems with the IETF, and some of those problems may even be worse, but that doesn't mean that off-putting communication approaches from IETF participants shouldn't be addressed.
Nick
