Re: Bad/Good ideas and damage control by experienced participants

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On 6/20/22 17:33, Nick Hilliard wrote:

We REALLY need to get past the notion that Bad People Discouraging Newcomers are the problem with IETF.   I'm 100% serious.   Our problems are MUCH deeper than that, and that kind of argument is inherently divisive because it encourages efforts to get rid of and/or marginalize the supposed Bad People.   That kind of thinking is toxic, and utterly incompatible with building consensus.

it's not helpful to characterise this in terms of "bad people".  The underlying issues relate to approach and attitude, rather than personalisation.

I'm not sure that's an improvement.  How do you judge people's "approach and attitude" without making dubious assumptions about their intent?

Keith



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