> Will someone pick up 4491 by mistake? I hugely doubt it > I think that only part of this thread is relevant to the ISE and the Independent Submissions Stream. That part is the progression of draft-deremin-rfc4491-bis, and I am unchanged in my opinion that that document is ready to be published as an Informational RFC in the Independent Stream As someone who has been involved with implementations of national crypto standards for years (I helped the GOST implementors get re-sync'd with OpenSSL, and played a part in getting SM2/3/4 documented in the IETF and implemented in OpenSSL), I just want to say that it is my view that the views of Adrian quoted above are exactly right. -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call