Re: [Last-Call] Opsdir last call review of draft-zern-webp-05

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Hi James,

That all sounds fine, many thanks. 

Tim

> On 7 Nov 2021, at 03:10, James Zern <jzern@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 9:07 AM Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi James,
>> 
>>> On 2 Nov 2021, at 03:03, James Zern <jzern@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 5:40 AM Tim Chown via Datatracker
>>> <noreply@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Reviewer: Tim Chown
>>>> Review result: Has Nits
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate's ongoing
>>>> effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
>>>> comments were written with the intent of improving the operational aspects of
>>>> the IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may be included
>>>> in AD reviews during the IESG review.  Document editors and WG chairs should
>>>> treat these comments just like any other last call comments.
>>>> 
>>>> This draft serves as the IETF standards document through which the WebP image
>>>> format is registered with IANA.
>>>> 
>>>> The document is ready for publication with Nits to be addressed.  Note I am not
>>>> overly familiar with such registration procedure, but have read through RFC6838
>>>> since being assigned this draft for review, given 6838 defines the registration
>>>> requirements.
>>>> 
>>>> General comments
>>>> 
>>>> I think the abstract should say this document provides the WebP media type
>>>> registration with IANA, as required by RFC 6838, not just what WebP is.
>>>> 
> 
> Good point. That wasn't revisited as the document evolved. Done locally.
> 
>>>> The draft includes pointers to the specifications for GIF, JPG and PNG but it
>>>> might be useful to confirm which documents (or additional documents) serve the
>>>> registration function for those formats.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Meaning pointers to registration RFCs like this one if they exist?
>> 
>> Yes. It’s not required, and its more perhaps something I’d just be interested
>> to see as this is the first RFC of this type I’ve reviewed.  So if you happen to
>> know the things to cite it would be nice, but if not, no worries.
>> 
> 
> A search on datatracker didn't turn them up [1][2]. IANA [3] lists
> RFC2045 [4] & RFC2046 [5] for gif/jpeg. They are mentioned in 2046
> [6]. PNG points to a PNG author (note personal emails abound).
> 
>>>> In RFC6838 section 4.6, the security requirements are detailed (see
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6838#section-4.6).   I don’t think
>>>> these have all been addressed in this document.  Section 4.6 for example says
>>>> that the draft MUST state whether “active content” is employed or not, and if
>>>> it is, detail steps taken, but I don’t see that here.  Similarly it SHOULD
>>>> discuss compression.  I’d suggest a quick review of 4.6 for compliance.
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t see the IANA registry cited in this document - it is mentioned in
>>>> Section 5 but an explicit pointer would use useful.  I believe it’s the one at
>>>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml
>>>> 
> 
> Done locally.
> 
>>>> I also looked at compliance of this draft in Section 2.1 with Section 6.2 of
>>>> RFC 6838.  I think this draft should explicitly include the Full Name and
>>>> suffix used, and while the subtype name listed is also the suffix, perhaps make
>>>> that explicit.
>>> 
>>> Does this apply? This isn't registering a suffix, but the media type itself.
>> 
>> Again, I’m not familiar with this registration RFC procedure, I’m just looking at
>> Section 6.2 of RFC 6838 which lists Name and +Suffix, so I’d assume that was
>> WebP (is there a full name?)
> 
> WebP was an extension of WebM where M and P are media and picture
> respectively, but in practice WebP / WebM are used as the canonical
> terms.
> 
>> and .webp.  But it may not be needed.
>> 
>>>> Finally, I see personal email contacts included, though RFC 6838 says “The
>>>> "owner" of a media type registered in the standards tree is assumed to be the
>>>> standards-related organization itself.”, so should there be a more generic
>>>> google contact or owner listed?
>>> 
>>> I can make this opensource@xxxxxxxxxx or look for another generic
>>> contact if that helps.
>> 
>> I think it may be good for longevity of the contact info to use a more generic
>> contact address, and it would allow multiple people to be reached and potentially
>> respond faster.
>> 
> 
> We do have TIFF [7] as an (older) example and AVIF has both something
> to aomedia and a direct contact. WebP is technically a part of the
> WebM project. We have webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx there; I added this
> locally.
> 
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search?name=Media+Type+Registration&sort=&rfcs=on&by=group&group=
> [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search?name=MIME+Type+Registration&sort=&rfcs=on&by=group&group=
> [3] https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml
> [4] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2045.html
> [5] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2046.html
> [6] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2046.html#section-3
>    (2)   image -- image data.  "Image" requires a display device
>          (such as a graphical display, a graphics printer, or a
>          FAX machine) to view the information. An initial
>          subtype is defined for the widely-used image format
>          JPEG. .  subtypes are defined for two widely-used image
>          formats, jpeg and gif.
> [7] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3302.html
> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Tim
>> 
>>> 
>>>> —
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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