Re: [Last-Call] Opsdir last call review of draft-zern-webp-05

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Hi Tim,

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 9:07 AM Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
> > On 2 Nov 2021, at 03:03, James Zern <jzern@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 5:40 AM Tim Chown via Datatracker
> > <noreply@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Reviewer: Tim Chown
> >> Review result: Has Nits
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate's ongoing
> >> effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
> >> comments were written with the intent of improving the operational aspects of
> >> the IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may be included
> >> in AD reviews during the IESG review.  Document editors and WG chairs should
> >> treat these comments just like any other last call comments.
> >>
> >> This draft serves as the IETF standards document through which the WebP image
> >> format is registered with IANA.
> >>
> >> The document is ready for publication with Nits to be addressed.  Note I am not
> >> overly familiar with such registration procedure, but have read through RFC6838
> >> since being assigned this draft for review, given 6838 defines the registration
> >> requirements.
> >>
> >> General comments
> >>
> >> I think the abstract should say this document provides the WebP media type
> >> registration with IANA, as required by RFC 6838, not just what WebP is.
> >>

Good point. That wasn't revisited as the document evolved. Done locally.

> >> The draft includes pointers to the specifications for GIF, JPG and PNG but it
> >> might be useful to confirm which documents (or additional documents) serve the
> >> registration function for those formats.
> >>
> >
> > Meaning pointers to registration RFCs like this one if they exist?
>
> Yes. It’s not required, and its more perhaps something I’d just be interested
> to see as this is the first RFC of this type I’ve reviewed.  So if you happen to
> know the things to cite it would be nice, but if not, no worries.
>

A search on datatracker didn't turn them up [1][2]. IANA [3] lists
RFC2045 [4] & RFC2046 [5] for gif/jpeg. They are mentioned in 2046
[6]. PNG points to a PNG author (note personal emails abound).

> >> In RFC6838 section 4.6, the security requirements are detailed (see
> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6838#section-4.6).   I don’t think
> >> these have all been addressed in this document.  Section 4.6 for example says
> >> that the draft MUST state whether “active content” is employed or not, and if
> >> it is, detail steps taken, but I don’t see that here.  Similarly it SHOULD
> >> discuss compression.  I’d suggest a quick review of 4.6 for compliance.
> >>
> >> I don’t see the IANA registry cited in this document - it is mentioned in
> >> Section 5 but an explicit pointer would use useful.  I believe it’s the one at
> >> https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml
> >>

Done locally.

> >> I also looked at compliance of this draft in Section 2.1 with Section 6.2 of
> >> RFC 6838.  I think this draft should explicitly include the Full Name and
> >> suffix used, and while the subtype name listed is also the suffix, perhaps make
> >> that explicit.
> >
> > Does this apply? This isn't registering a suffix, but the media type itself.
>
> Again, I’m not familiar with this registration RFC procedure, I’m just looking at
> Section 6.2 of RFC 6838 which lists Name and +Suffix, so I’d assume that was
> WebP (is there a full name?)

WebP was an extension of WebM where M and P are media and picture
respectively, but in practice WebP / WebM are used as the canonical
terms.

> and .webp.  But it may not be needed.
>
> >> Finally, I see personal email contacts included, though RFC 6838 says “The
> >> "owner" of a media type registered in the standards tree is assumed to be the
> >> standards-related organization itself.”, so should there be a more generic
> >> google contact or owner listed?
> >
> > I can make this opensource@xxxxxxxxxx or look for another generic
> > contact if that helps.
>
> I think it may be good for longevity of the contact info to use a more generic
> contact address, and it would allow multiple people to be reached and potentially
> respond faster.
>

We do have TIFF [7] as an (older) example and AVIF has both something
to aomedia and a direct contact. WebP is technically a part of the
WebM project. We have webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx there; I added this
locally.

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search?name=Media+Type+Registration&sort=&rfcs=on&by=group&group=
[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search?name=MIME+Type+Registration&sort=&rfcs=on&by=group&group=
[3] https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml
[4] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2045.html
[5] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2046.html
[6] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2046.html#section-3
    (2)   image -- image data.  "Image" requires a display device
          (such as a graphical display, a graphics printer, or a
          FAX machine) to view the information. An initial
          subtype is defined for the widely-used image format
          JPEG. .  subtypes are defined for two widely-used image
          formats, jpeg and gif.
[7] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3302.html

> Best wishes,
> Tim
>
> >
> >> —
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

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