Ohta-san, your email (retained as the first part of the below) is not in
my view fair criticism against poor engineering results. it is a baldly
and badly expresssed personal opinion. Even if someone were inclined to
agree with you, there is no information there by which to attempt to
improve the process or results. Nor is there even any detail of what
you consider "stupid" about the protocols. Even the use of the word
"stupid" casts into question whether your note could be considered fair
criticism.
People have the right and even the obligation to criticize IETF
protocols. Both before and after publication as RFC. Recently, a
participant raised specific and clear security concerns with a published
RFC. That is what is supposed to happen.
Yours,
Joel
PS: I would normally simply ignore your largely content free remarks,
but I want to make sure that others realize that Miles' reaction is
shared by others.
On 11/1/2021 10:58 AM, Masataka Ohta wrote:
Miles Fidelman wrote:
And the goal should be to prevent IETF perform meaningless
engineering such as development of stupid protocols, including but
not limited to, IPv6 and LISP.
Now THIS seems like a living example of something that is both
unprofessional AND uncivil.
Thank you very much for clarifying that requiring to be "professional"
or "civil" means prohibiting fair criticism against poor engineering
results.
Masataka Ohta