--On Thursday, October 21, 2021 09:34 +1300 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Well, I am not convinced. *Guidance* to NomCom along these > lines would be a fine idea, but a firm rule, IMHO, would > over-constrain an already constrained solution. To be clear, while I am trying to see the other side of the argument and want to try to avoid ones I consider largely spurious or even dangerous (such as "positions are too hard to fill"), I share your concern about a firm rule. As suggested earlier, have a look at draft-klensin-nomcom-term, which is all about guidance and treating separate issues separately. Whether the two-step process it proposes would really clarify things, eliminate another problem people have expressed concern about (recently, not 15+ years ago), and be worth the effort is, I think, a separate discussion. I need to consult with Spencer before putting a new version up, but you can probably assume it is in the pipe. john