I concur with Rich's request and favor a discussion but, if we are going to do that, I request that draft-klensin-nomcom-term (yes, from 2005-2006) be added as well. Unless Spencer has vigorous objections, I'll try to find the original and get a version with current dates, affiliations, etc., posted within the next several days. The abstract of that I-D read: A consensus is emerging in the IETF that very long tenure in leadership roles is not in the best interests of the community. While, in theory, that advice could simply be given to the NomCom, there is reason to believe that a different model for consideration of renewal or replacement for members of the leadership would be more efficient for the NomCom and would impose less hardship on incumbents and the community. This document outlines that alternate method. In addition to proposing an approach that would limit most Nomcom appointees to two terms and change the way Nomcoms review appointees, Section 3 (of -01) reviews the discussions at the time about other alternatives including hard term limits. john --On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 14:37 +0000 "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I would like to have this on the next GENDISPATCH agenda. > > Name: draft-rsalz-termlimits > Revision: 00 > Title: Term limits for IETF Leadership Positions > Document date: 2021-10-20 > Group: Individual Submission