Ron, That "Juniper Business Use Only" signature completely undermines the spirit of your message, don't you think? I view the IETF as a personal interest, often best participated in from a personal address. But then, my time or any role I play here is not subsidised or sponsored, or even expected to produce useful outcomes. Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx which... it doesn't. > On 8 Oct 2021, at 06:01, Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Christian, > > Keith has captured thee nuance of my comment. I really don't care where candidates come from, so long as they come to promote the common good of the Internet community and not their corporate interests. > > Ron > > > > Juniper Business Use Only > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 2:53 PM > To: Christian Huitema <huitema@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Ron Bonica <rbonica@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Want to be on the IESG? > > [External Email. Be cautious of content] > > >> On 10/7/21 1:56 PM, Christian Huitema wrote: >> >> Ron, I am not sure that I agree with you or Stewart here. We are >> discussing the lack of candidates for leadership positions. If I look >> at the roster of the IAB and IESG, I find plenty of members working >> for those large companies that develop Internet technologies, and that >> tells me that we are not exactly suffering from lack of participation >> from big companies. In fact, if we loaded committees with even more >> participation of these big companies, the complaint would not be that >> they "do not invest" -- most probably, we would hear the opposite >> complaint, that they invest too much. > > The question is, are those Big Companies "investing" or are they "exploiting"? Or some of each? > > Even though I think that's the question, I suspect we can't really answer that question definitively here, or maybe anywhere. > > But I'd love to see more I* candidates who are NOT from Big Companies. > IETF needs more diversity in its leadership. > > Keith >
