Maybe in the form of a weekly newsletter (email and RSS with full content), i.e. not just concatenation of messages and links, but classified by topics with a one sentence summary.
On 9/29/21 6:13 AM, Eliot Lear wrote:
Hi Al,
I would go further, and consolidate all interim announcements into one per week on announce, and remind people to subscribe to the IETF calendar (WGs could still see the non-consolidated). Similarly consolidate document actions to one per week. Similarly with RFCs. That reduces the #s considerably.
Eliot
On 29.09.21 14:57, MORTON JR., AL wrote:
Hi Lars,
following-up on "reduce the data to usable information":
It occurred to me that when I see several separate (#10) Interim Meeting announcement e-mails for the *same* WG, that a consolidated announcement for all the meetings would suffice. (One press of the delete key for those who are uninterested.)
Then, any announcement that is purely an announcement (no e-mail discussion thread follows) could be combined with others (#4,6,7,8) when they are prepared/ready close in time.
We retain the same info on ietf-announce with fewer messages.
Al
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From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Lars Eggert
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Cc: Working Chairs <wgchairs@xxxxxxxx>; Christian Huitema
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Subject: Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list
Hi,
On 2021-9-27, at 18:36, Eliot Lear <lear@xxxxxxx> wrote:
In an admirable effort to be transparent, we have inundated this list in
particular with data. We now need to take the time to reduce that data to
usable information. Please take another swing.
the IESG certainly could. But I'm also pretty convinced that whatever proposal
we came up with would get improved by the community pretty immediately.
So maybe we could try the opposite, and see if the community has some
consensus on what information they would like to retain on ietf-announce,
under the assumption that that would then remain our lists for broad
announcements.
For reference, here's again the list of posting classes that currently go
there, and the count of messages in each class in the last year:
1. Announcements sent manually by <various roles> = 284
2. Announcements of new and updated WG charters & WG closures = 44
3. (included in above 44)
4. Announcements of new non-WG mailing lists = 13
5. Announcements of new RFCs = 275
6. IESG and LLC telechat announcements = 39
7. Announcements of document actions = 175
8. Announcements of IESG conflict-review results = 14
9. Last call announcements for I-Ds = 174 (+ 4 for other actions)
10. Interim WG meeting announcements = 256
The "important-news" proposal would only retain those under (1) above. (We
could have a conversation if some of those could also be moved elsewhere, but
that's maybe a separate discussion.)
For any type of posting we'd remove, we could of course create a new list, so
that the information was still shared. I understand that when we move to
mailman3, we'll get a much better web-based subscription interface that will
make managing subscriptions much more straightforward.
Thanks,
Lars
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