Hi Lars, following-up on "reduce the data to usable information": It occurred to me that when I see several separate (#10) Interim Meeting announcement e-mails for the *same* WG, that a consolidated announcement for all the meetings would suffice. (One press of the delete key for those who are uninterested.) Then, any announcement that is purely an announcement (no e-mail discussion thread follows) could be combined with others (#4,6,7,8) when they are prepared/ready close in time. We retain the same info on ietf-announce with fewer messages. Al > -----Original Message----- > From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Lars Eggert > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 8:12 AM > To: Eliot Lear <lear@xxxxxxx> > Cc: Working Chairs <wgchairs@xxxxxxxx>; Christian Huitema > <huitema@xxxxxxxxxxx>; IETF <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list > > Hi, > > On 2021-9-27, at 18:36, Eliot Lear <lear@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > In an admirable effort to be transparent, we have inundated this list in > particular with data. We now need to take the time to reduce that data to > usable information. Please take another swing. > > the IESG certainly could. But I'm also pretty convinced that whatever proposal > we came up with would get improved by the community pretty immediately. > > So maybe we could try the opposite, and see if the community has some > consensus on what information they would like to retain on ietf-announce, > under the assumption that that would then remain our lists for broad > announcements. > > For reference, here's again the list of posting classes that currently go > there, and the count of messages in each class in the last year: > > 1. Announcements sent manually by <various roles> = 284 > 2. Announcements of new and updated WG charters & WG closures = 44 > 3. (included in above 44) > 4. Announcements of new non-WG mailing lists = 13 > 5. Announcements of new RFCs = 275 > 6. IESG and LLC telechat announcements = 39 > 7. Announcements of document actions = 175 > 8. Announcements of IESG conflict-review results = 14 > 9. Last call announcements for I-Ds = 174 (+ 4 for other actions) > 10. Interim WG meeting announcements = 256 > > The "important-news" proposal would only retain those under (1) above. (We > could have a conversation if some of those could also be moved elsewhere, but > that's maybe a separate discussion.) > > For any type of posting we'd remove, we could of course create a new list, so > that the information was still shared. I understand that when we move to > mailman3, we'll get a much better web-based subscription interface that will > make managing subscriptions much more straightforward. > > Thanks, > Lars
