Re: IETF 114 in the USA

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I don't think there is any value to be had in the game of guessing which country will be more or less open to visitors in nine months time.

Any country can shut down with little or no notice. And it is not just stopping people in that is the issue, it is people unable to get back home. There are still people who have been unable to get home from the 2020 lockdowns. 

US regulations have much wider impact than the US. Corporate travel restrictions tend to be at least as restrictive as the US. It is highly unlikely that we can have a productive meeting anywhere on the planet while US travel restrictions are in place.

The people of a certain ideological faith spend a lot of time jabbering enthusiastically about 'regulatory arbitrage'. In practice, regulation tends to spread far beyond the sovereign territory it theoretically applies to. The device you are reading this on is almost certainly RoHS certified (or pretends to be) despite the fact that this is only a legal requirement in the EU. 




On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 1:16 AM Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I know that it is a long way out, but  there seems to be a significant body of opinion that the US will not open up to travel by the residents of a significant number of IETF participants until the end of 2022.

Under these circumstances should we not be moving IETF 114 from the USA to a country that is open to International participation in technical standards meetings?

Moving a meeting is no small undertaking, and the sooner we take steps to move to a less restrictive country, the higher the chance that we will have a face to face rather than virtual meeting.

- Stewart



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