In general, it is the right direction of thinking: "to choose the country that is more open". But how to guess now who would be more open in 9 months?!? "Open" cold become "closed" or "banned" very fast as a result of a new wave of influenza. I did not monitor the situation, but for a long time, the Swedish government was less inclined to panic. Which country has the predictable government? The list should be very short. Ed/ -----Original Message----- From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 8:16 AM To: IETF <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Subject: IETF 114 in the USA I know that it is a long way out, but there seems to be a significant body of opinion that the US will not open up to travel by the residents of a significant number of IETF participants until the end of 2022. Under these circumstances should we not be moving IETF 114 from the USA to a country that is open to International participation in technical standards meetings? Moving a meeting is no small undertaking, and the sooner we take steps to move to a less restrictive country, the higher the chance that we will have a face to face rather than virtual meeting. - Stewart