It is fine, as long as it don't touch something either on me or my work. Khaled Omar -----Original Message----- From: Gorman, Pierce [mailto:Pierce.Gorman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 12:52 AM To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Gorman, Pierce <Pierce.Gorman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: RE: What's going on with the IETF. Sorry. I apologize for being abstruse. I was attempting to inject humor but failed. There is a saying, "It does no good to flog (i.e., beat) a dead horse". It refers to the futility of whipping a dead horse because no further work can be gotten out of the animal. Sometimes the saying is used to indicate a topic has been exhaustively discussed and further discussion will not result in useful work being accomplished. Pierce -----Original Message----- From: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 5:37 PM To: Gorman, Pierce <Pierce.Gorman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: RE: What's going on with the IETF. [External] Which draft you are talking about ? Khaled Omar -----Original Message----- From: Gorman, Pierce [mailto:Pierce.Gorman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 12:09 AM To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: RE: What's going on with the IETF. IMHO the expired draft animal has been sufficiently flogged. -----Original Message----- From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Khaled Omar Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 4:59 PM To: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: RE: What's going on with the IETF. [External] Some areas people need IPv6 and ISPs don't have IPv6 deployed. Other cases, ISPs are IPv6 ready but enterprises don't need to deploy IPv6. Khaled Omar -----Original Message----- From: Randall Gellens [mailto:rg+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2021 6:49 PM To: Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: What's going on with the IETF. On 9 Sep 2021, at 9:47, Scott Bradner wrote: > why bother - > > when they actually need to do something they will or they will perish That's my point. When they need IPv6, they'll deploy it. --Randall
