RE: Eligibility criteria [Re: List of volunteers for the 2021-2022 NomCom]

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Hi Brian,

Note that I did not suggest that commenting/reviewing drafts should be a criteria for NONCOM eligibility. I was simply arguing that there are other ways to care about IETF than being draft author :)

Regards,

Christer

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: tiistai 29. kesäkuuta 2021 1.19
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; Lloyd W <lloyd.wood=40yahoo.co.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx>; ietf@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Eligibility criteria [Re: List of volunteers for the 2021-2022 NomCom]

On 28-Jun-21 21:56, Christer Holmberg wrote:
> 
>> I think the criteria will need to be extended to include primary authors of active internet-drafts.
>>
>> If you care enough about the IETF to have actively submitted a draft in the last six months (and I do!), then you care about nomcom.
> 
> I think one can care equally enough about the IETF by actively commenting and reviewing drafts authored by others.

I agree in principle. However, both of these criteria were discussed on eligibility-discuss@xxxxxxxx before finalising RFC8989, and the consensus seemed to be that since they are both trivial to game, we couldn't use them. There's more of a case for qualifying authors of WG-adopted drafts and members of official review teams, but even those didn't get consensus.

I suggest people review those discussions, which are somewhere in https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/eligibility-discuss/

   Brian


> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christer
> 
> 
>> On 27 Jun 2021, at 07:12, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> This year we have 112 volunteers, under the experimental criteria of RFC8989. Those are
>>
>> a) registered attendance at 3 of IETFs 106, 107, 108, 109, and 110.
>> OR
>> b) being a recent WG Chair or Secretary or RFC author.
>>
>> Thus, we got fewer volunteers despite substantially broadening the criteria to include many more people.
> 




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