This has provided a statistical basis for my conclusion on initially seeing this list. I imagine I am not alone. This Nomcom volunteer pool is insufficiently diverse. I think the chair needs to extend the time to volunteer and encourage a more diverse pool. Normally the timeline is set by a need to physically meet at the summer IETF, but that does not apply this year so there is more time to make the selection. Stewart Sent from my iPad > On 26 Jun 2021, at 00:05, Michael StJohns <mstjohns@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi - No challenges, but an observation or two. > > There are only 6 companies with more than two volunteers: > > Cisco - 7 (6.3% of the pool, 47% chance of having at least one member, 12.6% of having 2). > Juniper - 9 (8% of the pool, 57% chance of having at least one member, 18.9% of having 2) > Ericsson - 4 (3.6%, 30.5%, 4.7%) > ZTE - 3 (2.7%, 23.8%, 2.8%) > Akamai - 3 (2.7%, 23.8%, 2.8%) > Huawei/Futurewei - 41 (36.6, 99%, 93%) > > A SWAG against that numbers suggests a Nomcom with 2 members from Huawai/Futurewei, 1-2 members from Cisco and Juniper (not each, total) and a 60% chance of having at least 1 member from one of Ericsson, Akamai or ZTE. > > 2 person companies represent (each) 1.8% of the pool, have a 16.5% chance of having at least one member, and have a 1.3% chance of having two. > > The numbers are not exact because of the organizational limit factor - e.g. individuals and 2 party companies (totalling 112-67 or 45) are roughly competing for the slots (4-6 slots at a guess) not won by these 5, which gives those folk individually a 8.3% to 11.9% chance of selection depending on the number of slots available. > > For an illustration of what affect the organizational limits have on the final composition of the Nomcom, without the limits, or with higher ones, Huawei/Futurewei would have a 77% chance of 3 or more members, a 53% chance of 4 or more members and a 28.5% chance of 5 or more. That suggests that due to the limits, in this selection process at least 2 or more volunteers will be selected randomly and discarded due to there already being 2 selectees from that group. > > Yours statistically, Mike > > > >> On 6/25/2021 4:46 PM, NomCom Chair 2021 wrote: >> This is a preliminary list of 112 qualified volunteers for NomCom 2021-2022. >> >> All have been qualified by using the Datatracker as qualified for the position of voting >> member of NomCom per RFC 8989. >> >> We now enter the challenge period, which lasts until the following deadline: >> >> Monday, July 5, 2021 at 23:59 UTC (Deadline for raising issues on the qualified volunteers list) >> >> If anyone thinks that a name on the numbered list below is NOT qualified for some >> reason, please send me email before this deadline at: >> >> nomcom-chair-2021 at ietf dot org >> >> The next steps are listed on https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2021/ (e.g., I will announce >> random seed selections for the RFC 3797 process shortly). >> >> The preliminary qualified volunteers are: >> >> Num Last Name First Name Affiliation >> =================================================================== >> 1 Aelmans Melchior Juniper Networks >> 2 Bagdonas Ignas Equinix >> 3 Banks Sarah Corelight, Inc. >> 4 Barnes Mary Independent >> 5 Beeram Vishnu Juniper Networks >> 6 Benamar Nabil Moulay Ismail University of Meknes, Morocco >> 7 Bertola Vittorio Open-Xchange >> 8 Bishop Mike Akamai Technologies >> 9 Bonica Ron Juniper Networks >> 10 Box Chris BT >> 11 Burdet LucAndré Cisco >> 12 Bush Randy IIJ Research Lab & Arrcus Inc >> 13 Busi Italo Huawei >> 14 Chen Mach Huawei >> 15 Chen Huaimo Futurewei >> 16 Cheng Weiqiang China Mobile >> 17 Ciavaglia Laurent Rakuten >> 18 Clemm Alexander Futurewei >> 19 Dhody Dhruv Huawei >> 20 Dong Jie Huawei Technologies >> 21 Drake John Juniper Networks >> 22 Eastlake Donald Futurewei Technologies, Inc >> 23 Eckel Charles Cisco Systems >> 24 Eckert Toerless Futurewei USA >> 25 Enghardt Theresa Netflix >> 26 Fan Dawei Huawei >> 27 Farrell Stephen Trinity College Dublin >> 28 Fioccola Giuseppe Huawei Technologies >> 29 Fomin Sergey Nokia >> 30 Fossati Thomas Arm >> 31 Geng Xuesong Huawei >> 32 Gondwana Bron Fastmail Pty Ltd >> 33 Gu Yunan Huawei >> 34 Gundavelli Sri Cisco >> 35 Haas Jeffrey Juniper Networks >> 36 Haddad Wassim Ericsson >> 37 Hallam-Baker Phillip Threshold Secrets LLC >> 38 Harrison Tom APNIC >> 39 Hegde Shraddha Juniper Networks >> 40 Heitz Jakob Cisco Systems, Inc. >> 41 Hopps Christian LabN Consulting >> 42 Housley Russ Vigil Security, LLC >> 43 Huitema Christian Private Octopus Inc. >> 44 Iannone Luigi Huawei >> 45 Jimenez Jaime Ericsson >> 46 Lear Eliot Cisco Systems >> 47 Leiba Barry Futurewei Technologies >> 48 Lemon Ted Apple >> 49 Li Cheng Huawei >> 50 Li Richard Futurewei Technologies, Inc. >> 51 Li Yizhou Huawei >> 52 Lin Yi Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. >> 53 Liu Bing Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd. >> 54 Lou Zhe Huawei Technologies Duesseldorf GmbH >> 55 Maisonneuve Julien Nokia >> 56 Makhijani Kiran Futurewei >> 57 Mankin Allison Salesforce >> 58 Masinter Larry Interlisp.org >> 59 Mattsson John Ericsson >> 60 McManus Patrick Fastly >> 61 Michaelson George APNIC >> 62 Min Xiao ZTE Corporation >> 63 Mishra Sanjay Verizon >> 64 Mizrahi Tal Huawei >> 65 Moore Keith Network Heretics >> 66 Nottingham Mark Fastly >> 67 Paine Kirsty UK National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC) >> 68 Pan Wei Huawei >> 69 Peng Shuping Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd. >> 70 Petit-Huguenin Marc Impedance Mismatch LLC >> 71 Pillay-Esnault Padma Independent, Amazon >> 72 Qu Yingzhen Futurewei Technologies Inc. >> 73 Reid Jim rtfm llp >> 74 Rescorla Eric Mozilla >> 75 Resnick Pete Episteme Technology Consulting LLC >> 76 Richardson Michael Sandelman Software Works >> 77 Romano Simon University of Napoli Federico II >> 78 Rose Kyle Akamai Technologies, Inc. >> 79 Saad Tarek Juniper Networks >> 80 Salz Rich Akamai >> 81 Sangli Srihari Juniper Networks >> 82 Schwartz Benjamin Google LLC >> 83 Song Haoyu Futurewei >> 84 StJohns Michael NthPermutation Security >> 85 Thubert Pascal Cisco Systems >> 86 Trøan Ole cisco >> 87 Tschofenig Hannes Arm >> 88 Velvindron Loganaden cyberstorm.mu >> 89 Volpato Paolo Huawei Technologies >> 90 Wang Haibo Huawei >> 91 Wang Yali Huawei >> 92 Wei Yuehua ZTE Corporation >> 93 Weiler Samuel W3C/MIT >> 94 Westerlund Magnus Ericsson >> 95 Winters Timothy QA Cafe >> 96 Woolf Suzanne Public Interest Registry (.ORG) >> 97 Wu Bo Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd. >> 98 Xiao XiPeng Huawei Technologies >> 99 Xie Jingrong Huawei Technologies >> 100 Xingjian He huawei >> 101 Yan Gang Huawei >> 102 Yang Fan Huawei Technologies Co.,Ltd. >> 103 Yu Yolanda Huawei >> 104 Zhang Lixia UCLA >> 105 Zhang Zheng ZTE >> 106 Zhang Zhaohui Juniper >> 107 Zhao Shuai Tencent >> 108 Zheng Guangying Huawei >> 109 Zheng Haomian Huawei Technologies >> 110 Zhou Tianran Huawei >> 111 Zhuang Shunwan Huawei >> 112 江元龙 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. >> >
