On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 09:22:47PM +0000, Salz, Rich wrote: > > You might say new terminology is more inclusive, or that old terminology > > is exclusive, or just say this is the new style or something. But > > whatever you do, calling the community racist is not ok, just bullying > > by intimidation. > > I certainly have never done that. I didn't say you did. > Do you have references where the IETF was said to be racist, as > opposed to using racist language? draft-knodel-terminology-04 > > It's not very far from "it will be hard, for a while, for me to work > > with some people" to "let's toss them out (this cudgel is handy!)". If > > anything, your reply strengthen's Viktor's argument with an existence > > proof of the danger in question. If you wish to dismiss that argument, > > you could do worse than to stop the intimidation tactics and start > > calling them out when you see them. (Apologies for specific, egregious > > incidents would be nice too.) > > Please let me know what you think I need to apologize for; feel free > to do it off-list. Links will help. I just did. While I would discuss it on-list, I think it's more likely that can obtain results if we continue off-list. Nico --
