On 2021-04-02, at 21:53, Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > proposed language policing Hi Viktor, I have a heck of respect for survivors of thought controlling dictatorships, so I’m not asking this lightly: What the <> are you talking about? Thank you. (I have copied the proposed charter of the proposed WG below, for your perusal. Skip the first two paragraphs, which are just background (*). I can’t find a proposal for establishing a supreme soviet of terminology, and I trust that we won’t let the WG generate such a proposal in its Informational RFC.) Grüße, Carsten (*) Can we have headings in charters? So we separate background chatter from the actual charter? https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-term/ : The mission of the IETF as specified in BCP 95 is to produce high quality, relevant technical documents that influence the way people design, use, and manage the Internet. IETF documents, including RFCs and Internet-Drafts, are most effective when they use terminology that is clear, precise, and widely accessible to readers from varying backgrounds and cultures. This maximizes the benefits the IETF derives from its core principles, such as its open process and volunteer core. In the years leading up to the chartering of this working group, there has been discussion in the IETF, in other standards organizations, and in the technology industry about the use of certain terms (such as "master/slave" and "blacklist/whitelist") in technical documentation and whether those and other terms have effects on inclusivity. While opinions vary among IETF participants about this topic, there is general agreement that the IETF community would benefit from informational recommendations about using effective and inclusive terminology in IETF documents. The TERM working group is therefore chartered to produce an Informational RFC containing recommendations on the use of inclusive terminology in the technical work produced by IETF participants. The RFC will express general principles for assessing when language is inclusive or exclusive. The principles should match the expectations from a diverse set of IETF participants. The WG will identify and recommend an external, independently-updated resource containing examples of potentially problematic terms and potential alternatives to IETF participants, in order to align its efforts with broader activities by the technology industry. The TERM working group is a focused group aiming to produce a single deliverable. It is designed to complement other efforts at fostering inclusivity in the IETF and will liaise with appropriate external groups, such as other SDOs or industry initiatives, to coordinate.