Re: document writing/editing tools used by IETF

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On 2/26/21 10:48 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:

I think a lot of people would like to use Word because of wide spread use of MS Office in workplace. It is almost standard there. Appreciating this even Apple comes up with Office for MAC software.
Yes, I'm sure that one of the reasons some people like to use Word is that they're already familiar with it from their workplaces.
I disagree with those who say MS-Word collaboration is not good, that means you don't know Word well :)

You say that like it's a bad thing :)

Also a lot of people don't use Word but use some other WP program that claims to support Word format.   In my experience this generally works ok for a single conversion, but works really poorly when people using different tools try to alternate editing passes, exchanging documents back and forth using "Word" format.

I personally detest Word because I've spent so much time fighting it when I only wanted it to do very simple things.   Other WYSIWYG tools that support Word format seem to be no better and often slightly worse.

But I think IETF should try to let all contributors use the tools that they're comfortable with using, and thereby minimize conflicts over which tools to use when collaborating.   But we probably can't support everything and we should be pragmatic about it.   I suspect that "pragmatic" looks something like: (a) let document editors use whatever they want for initial drafts, and when there are multiple editors let them decide among themselves. (b) Allow internet-draft uploads in a reasonable variety of formats (e.g. text, xml2rfc, pdf, maybe html with some constraints (the devil is in the details), but in any case something that the IETF tools can convert to pdf and ideally plain text also).  (c) "final" copies (say, prior to WGLC but maybe earlier if the WG wants to use github or something like it) should be in xml2rfc or anything else the RFC Series Editor will accept.

(But the sooner the authors/editors try converting to the final format, the less likely they'll get bitten by conversion errors late in the process.   Late surprises are never fun.)

Keith





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