On 26. 02. 21 8:36, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 2021-02-26, at 03:06, Larry Masinter <LMM@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> For collaboration, there's a generation of collaborative tools from Google Docs to Dropbox and Microsoft tools that are a lot better than GitHub for collaboration. > > I’m sorry, Larry, you’d have to have a very weird sense of “better” to believe that. > > I have had extensive exposure to the MS-Word type of “collaboration” (I was the editor of RFC 3095 which was done in MS-Word, with 16 collaborators). The English language does not have words to describe that experience. +1 For me, one of the greatest virtues of the IETF work style has always been that I wasn't forced to use MS Office (or similar software, which is often even worse). Lada > > For hacking out a quick draft, shared editors like Google Docs are fine (we mostly use hedgedoc née codimd née hackmd for that, and it sure is fun). For structured, controlled collaboration in a large team, nothing beats VCS systems like git, and github has a lot of mindshare in the tools around that process (issue tracking etc.). > > It is simply hilarious to imagine the QUIC or HTTPBIS WGs typing away at a shared Google doc. That’s not how it works. Specs are code, and there is a good reason why creating good documents (like the core ones of the above WGs) benefits from experience in collaborating on code. > > Grüße, Carsten > -- Ladislav Lhotka Head, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67