On 23/2/21 06:51, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
Hi Fernando,
I just took a quick look at the document and I missed one point that
increasingly worries me working in the IETF, namely the increasing
number of participants who are not interested to write any code*.
It could be the case that people are not interested, or that they don't
have the time, or that they are not familiar with an open source project
to contribute code. It could be any of them, and it's probably difficult
to tell.
In some cases, whether a WG gives value to an implementation might
encourage or discourage work on an implementation.
And then there are other things, such as:
* Each open source project has it's own culture.
* Some are very welcoming. Others not so much.
* Some will help for you to implement things, others (usually smaller)
projects might try or want to implement stuff themselves.
And, as with other things, whether somebody has support from his/her
employer will also have an effect -- e.g., if you have a pay job and do
IETF stuff independently, then you probably won't have enough time to
work on a draft and participating in the discussions, let alone
implementing it.
Then there are other things. e.g., I once did multiple implementations
fo a document I had co-authored, and provided pointers to the
implementations in an appendix. One IETF participant took the time to
ask each project to back out the commits "because the document had not
yet become an RFC".
I would include this aspect under diversity, particularly when
talking about the new leadership election cycles.
Could you elaborate a bit more on this one? And what you'd like to see?
Participating in some working groups I more and more get the
impression to sit in a document writing class rather than in an
Internet engineering organization.
One possible explanation is that energy is a finite resource: the more
bureaucracy and politics involved, the lesser the time to commit to
other things.
Thanks,
--
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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